The Jewish Tradition Of Genital Mutilation Kills Children In Bizarre Ritual

Here’s the real deal on how some of these religious freaks molest and infect baby boys. I would like to know anyone besides old, bearded Jews who would be allowed to walk free after cutting off a baby’s foreskin and sucking it off. This is sick and disgusting and it’s disturbing that the practice is allowed. It’s time we stop the protection religion gives to all sorts of bizarre and anti-social behavior.

A baby being genitally mutilated.

Does this kid look like he's having fun? Does it make you feel uncomfortable to watch a perfectly healthy boy being genitally mutilated in the name of Yahweh? No? Then imagine a dirty old, bearded geezer with bad breath, a rusty blade and a herpes infected mouth sucking on what's left of the poor child's penis!

City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies – New York Times.


Published: August 26, 2005

A circumcision ritual practiced by some Orthodox Jews has alarmed city health officials, who say it may have led to three cases of herpes – one of them fatal – in infants. But after months of meetings with Orthodox leaders, city officials have been unable to persuade them to abandon the practice.

The city’s intervention has angered many Orthodox leaders, and the issue has left the city struggling to balance its mandate to protect public health with the constitutional guarantee of religious freedom.

“This is a very delicate area, so to speak,” said Health Commissioner Thomas R. Frieden.

The practice is known as oral suction, or in Hebrew, metzitzah b’peh: after removing the foreskin of the penis, the practitioner, or mohel, sucks the blood from the wound to clean it.

It became a health issue after a boy in Staten Island and twins in Brooklyn, circumcised by the same mohel in 2003 and 2004, contracted Type-1 herpes. Most adults carry the disease, which causes the common cold sore, but it can be life-threatening for infants. One of the twins died.

Since February, the mohel, Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer, 57, has been under court order not to perform the ritual in New York City while the health department is investigating whether he spread the infection to the infants.

Pressure from Orthodox leaders on the issue led Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and health officials to meet with them on Aug. 11. The mayor’s comments on his radio program the next day seemed meant to soothe all parties and not upset a group that can be a formidable voting bloc: “We’re going to do a study, and make sure that everybody is safe and at the same time, it is not the government’s business to tell people how to practice their religion.”

The health department, after the meeting, reiterated that it did not intend to ban or regulate oral suction. But Dr. Frieden has said that the city is taking this approach partly because any broad rule would be virtually unenforceable. Circumcision generally takes place in private homes.

Dr. Frieden said the department regarded herpes transmission via oral suction as “somewhat inevitable to occur as long as this practice continues, if at a very low rate.”

The use of suction to stop bleeding dates back centuries and is mentioned in the Talmud. The safety of direct oral contact has been questioned since the 19th century, and many Orthodox and nearly all non-Orthodox Jews have abandoned it. Dr. Frieden said he hoped the rabbis would voluntarily switch to suctioning the blood through a tube, an alternative endorsed by the Rabbinical Council of America, the largest group of Orthodox rabbis.

But the most traditionalist groups, including many Hasidic sects in New York, consider oral suction integral to God’s covenant with the Jews requiring circumcision, and they have no intention of stopping.

“The Orthodox Jewish community will continue the practice that has been practiced for over 5,000 years,” said Rabbi David Niederman of the United Jewish Organization in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, after the meeting with the mayor. “We do not change. And we will not change.”

David Zwiebel, executive vice president of Agudath Israel, an umbrella organization of Orthodox Jews, said that metzitzah b’peh is probably performed more than 2,000 times a year in New York City.

The potential risks of oral suction, however, are not confined to Orthodox communities. Dr. Frieden said in March that the health department had fielded several calls from panicked non-Orthodox parents who had hired Hasidic mohels unaware of what their services entailed.

Defenders of oral suction say there is no proof that it spreads herpes at all. They say that mohels use antiseptic mouthwash before performing oral suction, and that the known incidence of herpes among infants who have undergone it is minuscule. (The city’s health department recorded cases in 1988 and 1998, though doctors in New York, as in most states, are not required to report neonatal herpes.)

Dr. Kenneth I. Glassberg, past president of the New York section of the American Urological Association and director of pediatric urology at Morgan Stanley Children’s Hospital of New York-Presbyterian, said that while he found oral suction “personally displeasing,” he did not recommend that rabbis stop using it.

“If I knew something caused a problem from a medical point of view,” said Dr. Glassberg, whose private practice includes many Hasidic families, “I would recommend against it.”

But Rabbi Moshe Tendler, a microbiologist and professor of Talmud and medical ethics at Yeshiva University, said that metzitzah b’peh violates Jewish law.

“The rule that’s above all rules in the Torah is that you cannot expose or accept a risk to health unless there is true justification for it,” said Dr. Tendler, co-author of a 2004 article in the journal Pediatrics that said direct contact posed a serious risk of infection.

“Now there have been several cases of herpes in the metro area,” he said. “Whether it can be directly associated with this mohel nobody knows. All we’re talking about now is presumptive evidence, and on that alone it would be improper according to Jewish law to do oral suction.”

The inconsistent treatment of Rabbi Fischer himself indicates the confusion metzitzah b’peh has sown among health authorities, who typically regulate circumcisions by doctors but not religious practitioners.

In Rockland County, where Rabbi Fischer lives in the Hasidic community of Monsey, he has been barred from performing oral suction. But the state health department retracted a request it had made to Rabbi Fischer to stop the practice. And in New Jersey, where Rabbi Fischer has done some of his 12,000 circumcisions, the health authorities have been silent.

Rabbi Fischer’s lawyer, Mark J. Kurzmann, said that absent conclusive proof that the rabbi had spread herpes, he should be allowed to continue the practice. Rabbi Fischer said through Mr. Kurzmann that the twin who died and the Staten Island boy both had herpes-like rashes before they were circumcised and were seen by a pediatrician who approved their circumcision. The health department declined to comment on its investigation.

To Cut Or Not To Cut, That Is The Question

I remember listening to the right-wing religious “therapist” “Dr” Laura on the radio some time ago (yeah, I used to do that for laughs once in a while) having a rant about circumcision. Basically what she said was that anyone that was against cutting the skin was an anti-Semitic hate monger, not to mention grossly unhygienic and a possible disease carrier. “Dr” Laura, behind her facade of self-righteous religious moralism, has, as we all know, a history of posing for nudies, but I’m not going to hold that against her. Just thought I’d mention it.

Child being genitally mutilated.

"There's not much pain involved and they won't remember it when they grow up. My son cried more when he got his first hair cut." ~ Anonymous mohel.

According to statistics 70% of the current male population in America have been circumcised. Depending on how you count (synagogue affiliation or not), Jews only make up between approximately 1.5-2% of the population. So who hates the 103 million men that have been circumcised, but are not Jews, and why? I can’t imagine why “Dr” Laura even cares. First of all, she’s not a real Jew, and, more importantly, she doesn’t have a cock. I wonder what her stance would be if God had made a pact with Sarah that she should cut off her labia. Possibly converting to Judaism wouldn’t have been quite as tempting.

I don’t know if it’s more or less hygienic to be cut or uncut. I would assume that a circumcised, unwashed, dick would smell bad and maybe carry around some bacteria, so my advice would be to always wash down below, whether you’re skinned or not, at least if you have some hopes of ever getting a blowjob. Personally I have all the parts I was born with save for a few brain cells and maybe some hair. And yet I don’t hate circumcised men. Frankly I couldn’t care less about anybody’s cock but my own, and it’s staying just the way it is, thank you! Nor do I hate Jews, but I do have a strong dislike for one (fake) Jew in particular.